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Is atheism the default position?
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Is atheism the default position?
by Tom Jerry Wed 16 Feb 2011, 11:19 am
Many atheists claim that atheism is the default position. In other words, they claim that when persons are born, they are naturally atheists and that it is only through indoctrination that they become theists. But, this claim is nothing more then an unsubstantiated opinion. How does an atheist know that people are not hardwired to believe in God? How does an atheist know that children don't naturally believe in God and have to be taught not to believe in God?
If the atheist says that it must be a cognitive choice to believe in God, then again we have to ask how the atheist knows this. People believe in things without really understanding why and often times they're surprised at what they do believe in naturally. So, that doesn't work either.
So when an atheist says that atheism is the default position, he is offering nothing more than an unsubstantiated opinion upon which he wants to build an argument that atheism is somehow valid, or superior, or natural. The conclusion is not supported by the premise.
But, what if it is true that atheism is the natural position of the person? Now, we are not saying that is the case, but what if it were? Would it mean that there is no God? Of course not. Even if an atheist were to hold the position that atheism is the default position (which cannot be verified) what does that have to do with whether or not God exists? It is irrelevant to the issue.
So, when atheists like to say that atheism is the default position, I like to respond with a request for them to prove it. They can't. They need to stop offering unsubstantiated opinions as facts.
If the atheist says that it must be a cognitive choice to believe in God, then again we have to ask how the atheist knows this. People believe in things without really understanding why and often times they're surprised at what they do believe in naturally. So, that doesn't work either.
So when an atheist says that atheism is the default position, he is offering nothing more than an unsubstantiated opinion upon which he wants to build an argument that atheism is somehow valid, or superior, or natural. The conclusion is not supported by the premise.
But, what if it is true that atheism is the natural position of the person? Now, we are not saying that is the case, but what if it were? Would it mean that there is no God? Of course not. Even if an atheist were to hold the position that atheism is the default position (which cannot be verified) what does that have to do with whether or not God exists? It is irrelevant to the issue.
So, when atheists like to say that atheism is the default position, I like to respond with a request for them to prove it. They can't. They need to stop offering unsubstantiated opinions as facts.
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Re: Is atheism the default position?
by agus Thu 24 Feb 2011, 11:22 pm
Good posting my friend, keep going to find the truth. I am behind and also supporting you are.... 
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Re: Is atheism the default position?
by Tom Jerry Tue 01 Mar 2011, 3:36 pm
OK, let's support Christianity bro...agus wrote:Good posting my friend, keep going to find the truth. I am behind and also supporting you are....
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Re: Is atheism the default position?
by agus Tue 01 Mar 2011, 10:20 pm
Tom Jerry wrote:OK, let's support Christianity bro...agus wrote:Good posting my friend, keep going to find the truth. I am behind and also supporting you are....
Never hold on one position, just keep going to find the answer. Only Islam will tell you the truth...
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Re: Is atheism the default position?
by Tom Jerry Thu 03 Mar 2011, 2:31 pm
agus wrote:Tom Jerry wrote:OK, let's support Christianity bro...agus wrote:Good posting my friend, keep going to find the truth. I am behind and also supporting you are....
Never hold on one position, just keep going to find the answer. Only Islam will tell you the truth...
The truth? Who told you the truth? Islam or Jesus?
So Jesus said to those Jews who had believed in him, "If you continue in my word, you are really my disciples. And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." (John 8:31-32)
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6)
Later on Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I am the light of the world. The one who follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." (John 8:12)
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Re: Is atheism the default position?
by agus Thu 03 Mar 2011, 9:27 pm
The truth? Who told you the truth? Islam or Jesus?
So Jesus said to those Jews who had believed in him, "If you continue in my word, you are really my disciples. And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." (John 8:31-32)
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6)
Later on Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I am the light of the world. The one who follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." (John 8:12)
I am going to tell the newest news of the truth, it's call "asyhadu an-laa ilaaha illallaah, wa asyhadu anna muhammadan rasuulullaah". This the right way to the truth, even all the prophets says the same thing.
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Re: Is atheism the default position?
by Tom Jerry Fri 04 Mar 2011, 12:42 pm
What kind of sentences like that?agus wrote:The truth? Who told you the truth? Islam or Jesus?
So Jesus said to those Jews who had believed in him, "If you continue in my word, you are really my disciples. And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." (John 8:31-32)
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6)
Later on Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I am the light of the world. The one who follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." (John 8:12)
I am going to tell the newest news of the truth, it's call "asyhadu an-laa ilaaha illallaah, wa asyhadu anna muhammadan rasuulullaah". This the right way to the truth, even all the prophets says the same thing.
What the hell kind of sentences like that?
These are the sentences from God:
'Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.'
‘Love your neighbor as yourself.' (Matt.22:37,39)
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Re: Is atheism the default position?
by agus Fri 04 Mar 2011, 8:24 pm
'Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.'
‘Love your neighbor as yourself.' (Matt.22:37,39)
Talking about love; well love in Islam more beauty dan powerfull than Matt's sentences. For example, as my neighbour you can breath safe and sound...
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Re: Is atheism the default position?
by alam hazmi alkarami Fri 04 Mar 2011, 8:50 pm
no metter islam or christian,if you believe god i will support you,with my religion and my theory and my argument 
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