MURTADIN_KAFIRUN
WELCOME

Join the forum, it's quick and easy

MURTADIN_KAFIRUN
WELCOME
MURTADIN_KAFIRUN
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.
Latest topics
» Yeremia 23 & Ulangan 13 mengisyaratkan Muhammad nabi palsu
membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       EmptyFri 02 Feb 2024, 5:21 pm by buncis hitam

» kenapa muhammad suka makan babi????
membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       EmptyWed 31 Jan 2024, 1:04 am by naufal

» NYATA & FAKTA : TERNYATA YESUS PILIH MENGAULI KELEDAI DARIPADA WANITA!!! (sebuah penghinaan OLEH PAULUS)
membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       EmptyFri 12 Jan 2024, 9:39 pm by Uwizuya

» SORGA ISLAM RUMAH PELACUR ALLOH SWT...........
membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       EmptyTue 02 Jan 2024, 12:48 am by Pajar

» Moon Split or Islamic Hoax?
membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       EmptyWed 13 Dec 2023, 3:34 pm by admin

» In Islam a Woman Must be Submissive and Serve her Husband
membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       EmptyWed 13 Dec 2023, 3:32 pm by admin

» Who Taught Allah Math?
membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       EmptyWed 13 Dec 2023, 3:31 pm by admin

» BISNIS GEREJA YUUUKZ....LUMAYAN LOH UNTUNGNYA....
membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       EmptyWed 05 Jul 2023, 1:57 pm by buncis hitam

» ISLAM: Palsu, Maut, Tak Akan Tobat, Amburadul
membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       EmptySun 07 May 2023, 9:50 am by MANTAN KADRUN

Gallery


membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       Empty
MILIS MURTADIN_KAFIRUN
MURTADIN KAFIRUNexMUSLIM INDONESIA BERJAYA12 Oktober Hari Murtad Dari Islam Sedunia

Kami tidak memfitnah, tetapi menyatakan fakta kebenaran yang selama ini selalu ditutupi oleh muslim untuk menyembunyikan kebejatan nabinya

Menyongsong Punahnya Islam

Wadah syiar Islam terlengkap & terpercaya, mari sebarkan selebaran artikel yang sesungguhnya tentang si Pelacur Alloh Swt dan Muhammad bin Abdullah yang MAHA TERKUTUK itu ke dunia nyata!!!!
 

Kebrutalan dan keberingasan muslim di seantero dunia adalah bukti bahwa Islam agama setan (AJARAN JAHAT,BUAS,BIADAB,CABUL,DUSTA).  Tuhan (KEBENARAN) tidak perlu dibela, tetapi setan (KEJAHATAN) perlu mendapat pembelaan manusia agar dustanya terus bertahan

Subscribe to MURTADIN_KAFIRUN

Powered by us.groups.yahoo.com

Who is online?
In total there are 112 users online :: 0 Registered, 0 Hidden and 112 Guests :: 3 Bots

None

[ View the whole list ]


Most users ever online was 354 on Wed 26 May 2010, 4:49 pm
RSS feeds


Yahoo! 
MSN 
AOL 
Netvibes 
Bloglines 


Social bookmarking

Social bookmarking reddit      

Bookmark and share the address of MURTADINKAFIRUN on your social bookmarking website

Bookmark and share the address of MURTADIN_KAFIRUN on your social bookmarking website


“Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:

4 posters

Go down

membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       Empty “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:

Post by admin Wed 26 Jan 2011, 3:47 am


“Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:

There are many Christians and Jews who demand that the Ten Commandments should be displayed in public institutions. In my opinion it is only fair that if the commandments are to be displayed, so should the penalties for breaking those commandments. Matter of fact they should be posted in its entirety so that society can see just what kind of crap these religions are feeding us. I also encourage those of you Judeo/Christians who visit here to print out this very list and post it where your children can see it. It’s time you explain to them what a murderous, unjust god you brainwash them into worshiping.

1st. Commandment, Exodus 20:3 “Thou shalt have no other gods before me”. Old Testament punishment - Deuteronomy 17:1-5 “And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heavens, which I have not commanded. Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing and shalt stone them with stones, till they die”. Deuteronomy 13:6-10, “If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is of thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. Thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God." Exodus 22:20 “He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed”. New Testament punishment - Mark 16:16 “He that believeth not, shall be damned”.


2nd. Commandment, Exodus 20:4 “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water below.” Old Testament punishment- Deuteronomy 27: 1 5 “Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image.” That’s right kids don’t EVER draw, sculpt or paint or else god will curse you. Wanna be an artist, a photographer, take a picture of yourself or family? TOO BAD, God says no! You better drop out of art class before he smites you with boils.


3rd. Commandment, Exodus 20:7 “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain”. Old Testament punishment - Leviticus 24:16 “And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death”, New Testament punishment - Matthew 12:32 “Whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come”. Mark 3:29 - “He that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgivness, but is in danger of eternal damnation”.


4th. Commandment, Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy”. Old Testament punishment - Exodus 31:15 “Whosoever shall work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death”. Numbers 15:32. “And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the Sabbath day…And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.”


5th. Commandment, Exodus 20:12 “Honour thy father and thy mother”. Old Testament punishment - Exodus 21:15-17“And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death”. More punishment - Exodus 21:17 “And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death”.


6th. Commandment, Exodus 20:13 “Thou shalt not kill”. Strangely enough this is a commandment despite all the punishments that require death in the New Testament and the Old Testament. How can thou not kill when thou is commanded to kill at the same time? This hypocrisy should be pointed out if the ten commandments are posted in schools, court rooms and buildings of legislation. The confusion of this commandment would surely bring capitol punishment into question.


7th. Commandment, Exodus 20:14 “Thou shalt not commit adultery”. Old Testament punishment - Leviticus 20:10 “And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death”.


I am working on compiling the list of punishments for commandments 8, 9, and 10. They should be up by then. In the mean while I have several other random commands by god that are quite interesting which I have listed here. The following command is very relevant for it requires a mandatory belief in the biblical god. Following the Ten Commandments, which are also listed in Deuteronomy 5:7-21, there are a number of curses which shall come upon thee, and overtake thee. These curses are given in Deuteronomy 28:17-68. Space does not permit all of them to be quoted, but a few are that the Lord will smite thee with consumption, fever, hemorrhoids, scab, madness, blindness, boils, and many more even worse.


For those of you Christians who disregard the Old Testament (even though Christ said it was forever binding), I have gathered together a great law from the New Testament. Romans 1 :29-32 “Those filled with unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, hate for god, despite, proud, boasters, inventions of evil things, disobedience to parents, without understanding, covenant breakers, unnatural affection, implacable or unmerciful nature: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death”.


Now I have had the displeasure of meeting many a Christian and I have one to meet as of yet, whom according to this list, are NOT worthy of death. How many of us feel envy, wish to fornicate, boast or gossip? How many Christians are guilty of debating? Why every day some Christian is debating the word of god or his dogmas with me. Every day I am the victim of deceit and despite at the hands of some Christian verbally harassing me for my beliefs. No wonder why god said that there shall only be 144,000 in the heaven out of all his followers.


In Conclusion:
Christians and Jews should post the commandments up in their parochial schools and in their churches/temples. But, if they insist on doing so they should print out this very page and hang it up for all to see. Don’t be a half-ass religionist; educate your children on what God truly commands. Stop thriving on telling half truths about your Bible/Pentateuch and publish the WHOLE story. Most importantly, do not think you have the right to post them in public institutions. It is MY job to educate MY child. Children need to learn the true meaning of love, compassion, morality, forgiveness and mercy. Not the filthy dogmas your Jehovah commands. Quite frankly, in comparison to hell-fire and damnation I’ll stick with Big Bird.

membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       180236_141430362582953_100001479713127_250952_5122856_n

admin
admin
ADMINISTRATOR
ADMINISTRATOR

Male
Number of posts : 1234
Age : 22
Reputation : -4
Points : 8017
Registration date : 2008-12-18

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MURTADIN_KAFIRUN/

Back to top Go down

membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       Empty Mengapa orang Kristen tidak menaati perintah Perjanjian Lama untuk membunuh kaum homoseksual dan anak-anak yang tidak patuh?

Post by Tom Jerry Fri 13 May 2011, 5:19 pm

Mengapa orang Kristen tidak menaati perintah Perjanjian Lama untuk membunuh kaum homoseksual dan anak-anak yang tidak patuh?

Kritik dari Alkitab sering mengutip contoh Perjanjian Lama seperti perbudakan, kekerasan terhadap kaum homoseksual, pemusnahan bangsa-bangsa, dll, sebagai bukti dari seperangkat aturan moral yang tidak memadai. Mereka juga akan sering bertanya mengapa orang Kristen saat ini tidak mengikuti ajaran "barbar" hari ini. Mereka mengeluh bahwa orang Kristen tidak konsisten, dan mengatakan bahwa jika kita benar-benar mengikuti Alkitab maka mengapa kita tidak mendukung hal-hal seperti membunuh homoseksual (Imamat 20:13) dan anak-anak yang tidak patuh (Ulangan 21:18-21).

Alasan kita tidak adalah karena sistem Perjanjian Lama (Old Covenantal), yang melibatkan hukuman keras seperti itu, telah disingkirkan. Kita berada di bawah sebuah perjanjian baru (new covenant). Yesus berkata dalam Lukas 22:20, "Cawan ini adalah perjanjian baru oleh darah-Ku, yang ditumpahkan bagi kamu."

Perjanjian baru (new covenant) ini dinubuatkan dalam Perjanjian Lama Yeremia 31:31, "Sesungguhnya, akan datang waktunya, demikianlah firman TUHAN, Aku akan mengadakan perjanjian baru dengan kaum Israel dan kaum Yehuda," demikianlah firman TUHAN, " Hal ini dirujuk dalam 1 Korintus 11:25; 2 Korintus 3:6; Ibrani 8:8, 9:15 dan 12:24.

Penting khusus untuk topik kita adalah Ibrani 8:13 yang mengatakan, "Oleh karena Ia berkata-kata tentang perjanjian yang baru, Ia menyatakan yang pertama sebagai perjanjian yang telah menjadi tua. Dan apa yang telah menjadi tua dan usang, telah dekat kepada kemusnahannya." Perjanjian Lama dengan peradilan penilaian kasar tidak lagi berlaku karena kita di bawah Perjanjian Baru.

Sebagian dari alasan sistem perjanjian dari Perjanjian Lama begitu keras adalah karena pertama, hukum Perjanjian Lama menunjukkan tingkat keparahan kebenaran dan persyaratan kesempurnaan di hadapan Tuhan yang suci. Galatia 3:24 mengatakan bahwa hukum Taurat adalah penuntun bagi kita sampai Kristus datang, supaya kita dibenarkan karena iman. Hal ini dilakukan dengan menunjukkan kepada kita bahwa kita tidak mampu menjaga hukum dan bahwa satu-satunya cara memperoleh kebenaran di hadapan Tuhan adalah melalui pengorbanan Yesus, yang adalah Tuhan dalam daging (Yohanes 1:1,14; Kolose 2:9).

Kedua, zaman Perjanjian Lama adalah sangat sulit dan ada banyak bangsa yang berperang melawan Israel. Juga, Iblis dan gerombolan setan selalu bekerja untuk menghancurkan Israel guna membatalkan nubuat tentang Mesias yang akan datang, untuk mencegah Mesias dilahirkan dan memberikan umat-Nya. Oleh karena itu, Tuhan menetapkan hukum, yang sesulit mungkin, yang konsisten dengan budaya zaman, yang menjamin kelangsungan hidup bangsa Yahudi, yang membantu untuk mempertahankan struktur sosial, dan juga mencerminkan kerasnya hukum.

Sistem perjanjian Perjanjian Baru mengatakan bahwa kita harus "berdamai yang seorang dengan yang lain," (Markus 9:50) dan "dengan semua orang," (Roma 12:18). Roma 14:18 mengatakan, "mengejar apa yang mendatangkan damai sejahtera dan yang berguna untuk saling membangun." Lagi pula, "Tuhan memanggil kamu untuk hidup dalam damai sejahtera," (1 Korintus 7:15).

Namun, ini tidaklah berarti bahwa kita harus menyetujui dosa-dosa seperti homoseksualitas, perzinahan, berbohong, dan mencuri. Kita harus tidak berpartisipasi dalam dosa-dosa dunia. Sebaliknya, kita harus menghindari mereka. Kita tidak akan kekerasan kepada siapapun sejauh sistem perjanjian lama yang telah dilakukan (Ibrani 8:13). Sebaliknya, kita harus ramah terhadap mereka (2 Timotius 2:24-25) dan menunjukkan kepada mereka kasih (1 Korintus 16:14; 2 Korintus 5:14). Namun kecaman moral dari amoralitas masih berdiri - sebagaimana jelas diajarkan dalam 1 Korintus 6:9-10 dan Roma 1:26-28.

Jadi, alasan orang Kristen tidak diwajibkan untuk merajam kaum homoseksual, anak-anak yang tidak patuh, dan orang-orang berzinah, adalah karena kita tidak lagi di bawah sistem perjanjian Perjanjian Lama. Hal ini telah dipenuhi dan diselesaikan (Ibrani 8:13).

Dengan hak apa anda harus menilai?

Dalam rangka seseorang menaikkan suatu keberatan yang valid terhadap undang-undang moral Perjanjian Lama, ia harus menyediakan sebuah standar di mana penilaian tersebut dapat dibuat. Sementara orang mungkin tidak setuju dengan penilaian moral dari Perjanjian Lama, tidak setuju tidaklah membatalkannya atau berarti ini salah; juga hanya mengatakan "ini jelas aturan barbar" tidaklah berarti memang. Demikian juga, mengatakan bahwa "masyarakat telah berkembang" adalah pernyataan tanpa arti. Dengan standar apa kritikus menawarkan kriteria objektif secara moral di mana ia dapat menilai moral budaya lain itu?

Kita harus bertanya hak apa seseorang di dalam budaya masa-kini harus menilai kebudayaan kuno apapun yang ada dalam konfigurasi yang sama sekali berbeda ekonomi, militeristik, peradilan, dan geografis? Tentu saja, orang berhak atas pendapat mereka dan mereka tidak harus seperti apa yang diajarkan Alkitab, tetapi tidak menyukai tidak memiliki bantalan pada apakah ini baik atau tidak. Jadi, para kritikus yang bersikeras bahwa hukum Perjanjian Lama pasti salah harus memberikan standar obyektif (bukan pendapat sendiri) dengan mana mereka dapat membuat penilaian moral.

Tom Jerry
Tom Jerry
SILVER MEMBERS
SILVER MEMBERS

Male
Number of posts : 1829
Location : Jakarta
Job/hobbies : Cari kebenaran
Reputation : 11
Points : 7239
Registration date : 2010-09-21

Back to top Go down

membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       Empty Re: “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:

Post by agus Fri 13 May 2011, 11:03 pm

pantes pastor2 banyak yang homo.... membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       649229 membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       649229 membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       649229 membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       649229
agus
agus
SILVER MEMBERS
SILVER MEMBERS

Male
Number of posts : 8588
Location : Everywhere but no where
Job/hobbies : Baca-baca
Humor : Shaggy yang malang
Reputation : 45
Points : 14630
Registration date : 2010-04-16

Back to top Go down

membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       Empty Re: “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:

Post by Tom Jerry Sat 14 May 2011, 8:11 am

agus wrote:pantes pastor2 banyak yang homo.... membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       649229 membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       649229 membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       649229 membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       649229
tuh khan katolik lagi yang kena...
Tom Jerry
Tom Jerry
SILVER MEMBERS
SILVER MEMBERS

Male
Number of posts : 1829
Location : Jakarta
Job/hobbies : Cari kebenaran
Reputation : 11
Points : 7239
Registration date : 2010-09-21

Back to top Go down

membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       Empty Re: “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:

Post by mang odoy Wed 01 Jun 2011, 4:13 am

katanya ini forum linggis...lha kok pada endonesaan..he he he..

mang odoy
SILVER MEMBERS
SILVER MEMBERS

Number of posts : 1228
Reputation : -115
Points : 6030
Registration date : 2011-01-06

Back to top Go down

membunuh - “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:       Empty Re: “Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum