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Post by segoromayit on Fri 16 Mar 2012, 9:57 am

As mentioned previously, the religion of Jesus (pbuh), as preached by him in the Bible in both word and actions, was a simple continuation, affirmation, and return to, the original message of prophet Moses (pbuh). The later concepts of "original sin," "atonement," etc. were not introduced into the teachings of Jesus by Jesus himself but by Paul and his followers. Paul and his followers succeeded in "spiritualizing" the message of Jesus and removing all obligation from it. Thus, the message of Jesus which was based upon faith and works was transformed into a message of faith without works and doctrines of sensationalism. To illustrate this point let us take the example of the following pop quiz:

1) Are you a Christian? Yes or no?

2) Do you truly believe? Yes or no?

3) Have you been baptized? Yes or no?

4) Mark 16:16-18 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; (a) In my name shall they cast out devils; (b) they shall speak with new tongues; (c)They shall take up serpents; and (d) if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; (e) they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

5) Once again. Have you (a) been baptized and (b) do you believe?

a) If NOT then you WILL NOT BE SAVED BUT DAMNED.

b) If a Christian has been baptized and believes then they should exhibit the "signs" mentioned above, such as being able to drink any deadly poison (such as battery acid, etc.) and not be harmed. How about the other signs? Can all believing and baptized Christians lay their hand on any randomly selected terminally ill cancer patient or paraplegic and have him rise completely cured? Does this not require that the Christian world be completely free of all illness, doctors, and hospitals? According to this verse, should not all believing, baptized, Christians be able to do this if they truly believe are to be saved? If a Christian does not exhibit these signs, then does this not prove that they do not believe, and thus will not be saved but damned?

6) Go back to (1)
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Post by lihd on Fri 16 Mar 2012, 11:11 am

@segoromayit wrote:As mentioned previously, the religion of Jesus (pbuh), as preached by him in the Bible in both word and actions, was a simple continuation, affirmation, and return to, the original message of prophet Moses (pbuh). The later concepts of "original sin," "atonement," etc. were not introduced into the teachings of Jesus by Jesus himself but by Paul and his followers. Paul and his followers succeeded in "spiritualizing" the message of Jesus and removing all obligation from it. Thus, the message of Jesus which was based upon faith and works was transformed into a message of faith without works and doctrines of sensationalism. To illustrate this point let us take the example of the following pop quiz:

1) Are you a Christian? Yes or no?

2) Do you truly believe? Yes or no?

3) Have you been baptized? Yes or no?

4) Mark 16:16-18 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; (a) In my name shall they cast out devils; (b) they shall speak with new tongues; (c)They shall take up serpents; and (d) if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; (e) they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

5) Once again. Have you (a) been baptized and (b) do you believe?

a) If NOT then you WILL NOT BE SAVED BUT DAMNED.

b) If a Christian has been baptized and believes then they should exhibit the "signs" mentioned above, such as being able to drink any deadly poison (such as battery acid, etc.) and not be harmed. How about the other signs? Can all believing and baptized Christians lay their hand on any randomly selected terminally ill cancer patient or paraplegic and have him rise completely cured? Does this not require that the Christian world be completely free of all illness, doctors, and hospitals? According to this verse, should not all believing, baptized, Christians be able to do this if they truly believe are to be saved? If a Christian does not exhibit these signs, then does this not prove that they do not believe, and thus will not be saved but damned?

6) Go back to (1)

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Post by kuku bima on Fri 16 Mar 2012, 11:51 am

@lihd wrote:
@segoromayit wrote:As mentioned previously, the religion of Jesus (pbuh), as preached by him in the Bible in both word and actions, was a simple continuation, affirmation, and return to, the original message of prophet Moses (pbuh). The later concepts of "original sin," "atonement," etc. were not introduced into the teachings of Jesus by Jesus himself but by Paul and his followers. Paul and his followers succeeded in "spiritualizing" the message of Jesus and removing all obligation from it. Thus, the message of Jesus which was based upon faith and works was transformed into a message of faith without works and doctrines of sensationalism. To illustrate this point let us take the example of the following pop quiz:

1) Are you a Christian? Yes or no?

2) Do you truly believe? Yes or no?

3) Have you been baptized? Yes or no?

4) Mark 16:16-18 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; (a) In my name shall they cast out devils; (b) they shall speak with new tongues; (c)They shall take up serpents; and (d) if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; (e) they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

5) Once again. Have you (a) been baptized and (b) do you believe?

a) If NOT then you WILL NOT BE SAVED BUT DAMNED.

b) If a Christian has been baptized and believes then they should exhibit the "signs" mentioned above, such as being able to drink any deadly poison (such as battery acid, etc.) and not be harmed. How about the other signs? Can all believing and baptized Christians lay their hand on any randomly selected terminally ill cancer patient or paraplegic and have him rise completely cured? Does this not require that the Christian world be completely free of all illness, doctors, and hospitals? According to this verse, should not all believing, baptized, Christians be able to do this if they truly believe are to be saved? If a Christian does not exhibit these signs, then does this not prove that they do not believe, and thus will not be saved but damned?

6) Go back to (1)

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Post by segoromayit on Fri 16 Mar 2012, 3:05 pm

@kuku bima wrote:
@lihd wrote:
@segoromayit wrote:As mentioned previously, the religion of Jesus (pbuh), as preached by him in the Bible in both word and actions, was a simple continuation, affirmation, and return to, the original message of prophet Moses (pbuh). The later concepts of "original sin," "atonement," etc. were not introduced into the teachings of Jesus by Jesus himself but by Paul and his followers. Paul and his followers succeeded in "spiritualizing" the message of Jesus and removing all obligation from it. Thus, the message of Jesus which was based upon faith and works was transformed into a message of faith without works and doctrines of sensationalism. To illustrate this point let us take the example of the following pop quiz:

1) Are you a Christian? Yes or no?

2) Do you truly believe? Yes or no?

3) Have you been baptized? Yes or no?

4) Mark 16:16-18 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; (a) In my name shall they cast out devils; (b) they shall speak with new tongues; (c)They shall take up serpents; and (d) if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; (e) they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

5) Once again. Have you (a) been baptized and (b) do you believe?

a) If NOT then you WILL NOT BE SAVED BUT DAMNED.

b) If a Christian has been baptized and believes then they should exhibit the "signs" mentioned above, such as being able to drink any deadly poison (such as battery acid, etc.) and not be harmed. How about the other signs? Can all believing and baptized Christians lay their hand on any randomly selected terminally ill cancer patient or paraplegic and have him rise completely cured? Does this not require that the Christian world be completely free of all illness, doctors, and hospitals? According to this verse, should not all believing, baptized, Christians be able to do this if they truly believe are to be saved? If a Christian does not exhibit these signs, then does this not prove that they do not believe, and thus will not be saved but damned?

6) Go back to (1)

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Post by DOMBA BERTARING SERIGALA on Fri 16 Mar 2012, 4:17 pm

@kuku bima wrote:
@lihd wrote:
@segoromayit wrote:As mentioned previously, the religion of Jesus (pbuh), as preached by him in the Bible in both word and actions, was a simple continuation, affirmation, and return to, the original message of prophet Moses (pbuh). The later concepts of "original sin," "atonement," etc. were not introduced into the teachings of Jesus by Jesus himself but by Paul and his followers. Paul and his followers succeeded in "spiritualizing" the message of Jesus and removing all obligation from it. Thus, the message of Jesus which was based upon faith and works was transformed into a message of faith without works and doctrines of sensationalism. To illustrate this point let us take the example of the following pop quiz:

1) Are you a Christian? Yes or no?

2) Do you truly believe? Yes or no?

3) Have you been baptized? Yes or no?

4) Mark 16:16-18 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; (a) In my name shall they cast out devils; (b) they shall speak with new tongues; (c)They shall take up serpents; and (d) if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; (e) they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

5) Once again. Have you (a) been baptized and (b) do you believe?

a) If NOT then you WILL NOT BE SAVED BUT DAMNED.

b) If a Christian has been baptized and believes then they should exhibit the "signs" mentioned above, such as being able to drink any deadly poison (such as battery acid, etc.) and not be harmed. How about the other signs? Can all believing and baptized Christians lay their hand on any randomly selected terminally ill cancer patient or paraplegic and have him rise completely cured? Does this not require that the Christian world be completely free of all illness, doctors, and hospitals? According to this verse, should not all believing, baptized, Christians be able to do this if they truly believe are to be saved? If a Christian does not exhibit these signs, then does this not prove that they do not believe, and thus will not be saved but damned?

6) Go back to (1)

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ada ter tulis jangan mencobai tuhan.....puji tuhan banyak pengakuan dari dukun-dukun santet yang bertobat.katanya...saya benci sama orang kristen banyak yang saya santet tapi tidak berhasil..malahan berbalik ke keluarga saya katanya...akhirnya saya masuk kristen mengikut yesus.....haleluya...pengalaman2 misionaris di pedalaman.cari di mbah gologele....

@kuku bima wrote:akhirnya saya masuk kristen mengikut yesus.....haleluya...

Katanya ATHEIS, BUKAN KRISTEN...?

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Post by bayo_lubis on Fri 16 Mar 2012, 6:08 pm

@kuku bima wrote:ada ter tulis jangan mencobai tuhan......
Ada tertulis di mana? Dalam kitab atheis ya? Atau di buku stensilan?
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